Greninja or volcanion, what to play in Seattle?


#1

Hey everyone. So I’m debating on which of these 2 decks I should play in seattle this weekend. Volcanion I’ve used a few times and he just hasn’t been cutting it for me, but I feel he still might be a good choice. Greninja was the first real deck I built on ptcgo so it’s got a special place in my heart, and it seems to be getting popular again so I wanna give it a shot. It’s so e very well for me on the online, but I haven’t had a chance to play it yet IRL. So here are my current deck lists for both.

Volcanion ex. ****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
Pokémon - 11
2 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
1 Turtonator-GX GRI 18
3 Volcanion STS 25
1 Hoopa-EX AOR 36
4 Volcanion-EX STS 115
Trainer Cards - 37
1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
1 Olympia GEN 66
2 N DEX 96
1 Pokémon Ranger STS 113
1 Scorched Earth FAC 110
2 Lysandre AOR 78
2 Energy Retrieval PRC 126
1 Fisherman BKT 136
1 Escape Rope PRC 127
2 Field Blower GRI 125
4 Max Elixir BKP 102
4 VS Seeker ROS 110
4 Ultra Ball SUM 135
2 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
1 Choice Band GRI 121
2 Float Stone BKT 137
2 Sky Field ROS 89
3 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
1 Lillie SUM 122
Energy - 12
12 Fire Energy 2
Total Cards - 60
****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

Greninja break ****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
Pokémon - 18
4 Talonflame STS 96
3 Greninja BREAK BKP 41
3 Froakie BKP 38
4 Frogadier BKP 39
4 Greninja BKP 40
Trainer Cards - 34
2 Max Potion GRI 128
1 Ace Trainer AOR 69
1 Rough Seas PRC 137
1 Super Rod BKT 149
2 Lysandre AOR 78
4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
2 Field Blower GRI 125
2 Silent Lab PRC 140
4 VS Seeker ROS 110
3 N FAC 105
4 Dive Ball PRC 125
1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
1 Fisherman BKT 136
1 Professor Kukui SUM 128
1 Team Flare Grunt GEN 73
1 Enhanced Hammer GRI 124
3 Choice Band GRI 121
Energy - 8
7 Water Energy GEN 77
1 Splash Energy BKP 113
Total Cards - 60
****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

Any advice or thoughts on what to change would be appreciated.


#2

I keep seeing sylveon at tournaments, so be careful with greninja, but play whatever you think is consistent and comfortable!


#3

Considering Greninja one shots volcanion ex with a choice band attached and without a GWS, I’d say Greninja is better. But Greninja Mirrors are terrible.


#4

Play greninja. It autowins sylveon practically.


#5

Sylveon absolutely destroys Greninja.

EDIT: for more info on the matchup, see this thread: "Fields of Blowing Frogs" – Standard Greninja and Thoughts for Toronto


#6

But greninja can return water energy to their hand each turn with the attack, and sylveon is never really in a position where it wants N so you can not stop that strategy


#7

Plea GX and magical ribbon are so broken. They chain hex so easily and then plea GX removes greninja a off your bench so then they two shot your active after that and you have nothing set up. They deck you out here. Additionally, you are vulnerable to skull grunts


#8

Or greninja can just play starmie from EVO


#9

Greninja is already inconsistent, there is no way a starmie line can fit in well.


#10

Which still doesn’t solve the first two problems

Skull grunt isn’t very effective against greninja unless used at a perfect time because it’s so easy to retrieve energies through fisherman and energy retrieval. If you need starmie there is something wrong with your deck.